Absolutely not!
However, we did not want to petition for a referendum question either...we simply did what we were challenged to do. We accepted the challenge and succeeded, not because we understood what we were doing, but because we were doing what we understood was the morally right thing to do.
No - we don't want to recall Mr. Stoffa, but make no mistake about it...we will do what we have to do if Mr. Stoffa does not comprehend our mandate.
We The People are beyond requesting, we are now demanding that he fall in line with CC and set Gracedale up to succeed, not to fail.
Should Mr. Stoffa be incapable of understanding our demand...WE WILL NOT FAIL GRACEDALE, WE WILL RECALL HIM! Please challenge us again John so that your ignorance can be displayed to all of NorCo, the state , and the world as simple stupidity...because the People are now awake, we're smarter, more efficient, and understand the processes better.
Oh, and by the way - should you decide to push the issue again, we all promise to carry a measuring tape to measure the size of the tables we rest our petitions on - Just kidding John, we really don't want you to challenge us, we just want you to do what We The People have instructed you and your office to do by way of our vote...just do it.
We understand that a management team has been selected, so from this point on do the right thing Mr. Stoffa, doing so is not a sign of weakness but a sign of wisdom. If you have anything to prove...let it be that you will carry out the marching orders mandated by your boss (We The People) or prepare to suffer the consequence...and there will be a price to pay should you ignore us again.
If your worried about Angle, DON'T BE...his foundation has crumbled beneath him and even he knows it. Come November people will say - what Angle are you talking about, or Angle Who?
Do the right thing Mr. Stoffa and the People will support you...do the wrong thing, well, just do the right thing.
I agree. Let us hope Mr.Stoffa finally does the right thing. He has been a sad deceptive man up to now. Frankly, I as many, wish he would just resign. Most of his cabinet aren't around. The county is on automatic. It is a very sad state of affairs in Northampton County right now.
ReplyDeleteHI folks Stoffa, BO, Farmer Angle at hot mail, John Conklin. getting close are you ready? Five days and a wake up. Rember people that the court date is set for the 18th come out see how your tax dollar is spent. The truth is about to come out. Are they going to lie there way out? I do not think so. See you Thursday.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to find Stoffa cabnet go to the river and lift some rocks, I am sure you will find some of them.
ReplyDeleteWell stoffa has a company, the company stoffa told counsel would be in place by May 17. No the bids would be in by the 17th, why did it take him until AUGUST 12th? We have 4 days and a wake up till the truth is known.
ReplyDeletesorry the last comment should read May 18. sorry for the error.
ReplyDeleteTo the above poster
ReplyDeleteI question the timeline you refer to.
Could you provide your sources?
I, and possibly I am wrong, thought he said the search would begin the day after the elections.
Also I think a new thread based on this development, so we can discuss the merits and problems that might be with this new company.
As far as opening statements,
I was encouraged with the J. James comment, and perplexed by the "Hot Tub" Jerry green comment.
Mr. Cusick made a motion at a council meeting to begin the process of having a management team in place by May 18. There were 8 council members there that night instead of 9.The motion was got a second and it was passed 5-3.
ReplyDeleteSince 6 is the magic number to override Stoffa, Stoffa shot it down. Cusick asked Stoffa why because IF the referendum passed, the Council would be in a proactive position to START right away to bring Gracedale back to life.
Listen carefully, Winston and ask anyone who was at that meeting besides Stoffa,and they will give you Stoffa's answer.In fact, ask Mr. Cusick himself or check the record if it has not been altered.
Stoffa said to Cusick not to worry that he had already begun to search for a team WHICH WOULD BE IN PLACE BY MAY 18, THE VERY FIRST DAY AFTER THE ELECTION.
The TRUTH always comes out,and COAF can prove it to you.
People forget that Stoffa angrily said he would close down Gracedale. O'Hater and the Press don't bring that up but it happened and it was recorded.
ReplyDeleteMr. Smith if you can come to the court date on the 18th and see for your self how the county spent your tax dollars to help two people, fight the COAF. See you Thursday.
ReplyDeleteThank you I stand corrected and informed.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunatly I work middle shifts Mon. through Fri and now including Sat. until further notice.
I am only available during the day to offer any assistance needed for recalls or PRO Gracedale functions.
Mr. Smith Cort time Thursday is 9:A.M. Call Jill ask for the bills from the law firm.
ReplyDeleteWait until after the court hearing, then ALL of the taxpayers of NORCO will be able to read the PROOF for themselves.
ReplyDeleteThe regular people will not need a judge to realize who paid what for whom and out of which pot.
The truth is coming out all over Northampton County.
If you are running for office, be careful for the questions will be asked and the LIES will finally be cleared up.
Even members of the tea party will be shocked when they get a chance to read the "Harrisburg" bills.
How many times has Angle either flipped flop or lied about his stand on the Gracedale issue?
ReplyDeleteAlso, notice that his mouth is no longer screaming obcenities, telling people to shut up and sit down, etc.
He is quiet because he knows that the tide is turning quickly.
I had the opportunity to meet Scott Parsons last week quite by chance.
There is no comparison between the two. It's like looking at good vs evil.
I cannot wait to hear the garbage that Angle will try to cook up.
Won't do him much go because as they all say,"well, you know how Angle is."
Yeah, the one who lost.
Can't wait until ALL this crap is out and everyone can see who the dirty players were/are. The newspapers have got to cover this!!! Mr. Stoffa DEFINITELY said during a council meeting that he would have a management team IN PLACE the day after the vote. He was once again being his sly arrogant self. Fortunately people are finally starting to see who the real Mr. Stoffa is! Unfortunately he is still County Executive and even with a new management team, he will need to be watched VERY closely. I for one don't believe that the total blame goes to the present management team, but believe Mr. Stoffa prevented them from doing things to keep Gracedale profitable. I also believe that he will try to continue with his slyness and arrogance to prevent a new management team from running Gracedale profitable. There is a need to continue to be a "watch dog" group to now protect Gracedale now that she has been saved! See you on the 18th and can't wait! Thanks COAF!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteHi folks all the answersare in the bills, call Jill get the bills they are public record and are being given out. Can not say to much about them, but 3 days and a wake up to go.
ReplyDeleteWhile I like what I read in yesterday's Express about Gracedale, I also believe that the Angle/stoffa team will still have to be watched.
ReplyDeleteAngle wants to be re-elected after his ridiculous performance with his front man O'Hare and Stoffa got caught with his fingers in the cookie jar.
These men are not fit to reprsent us.
While Stoffa hides behind the fact that he wants no campaign funds, Angle collects for his debts for his votes.Stoffa just uses our money in other ways.
Again, thanks to the rest of Council for trying to turn this Gracedale thing around, but keep watching the evil Trinity.
Hey, Bruce, have you learned about your "friends?"
Angle,Stoffa, BO, got caught with their arm in the cookie jar. Tuesday we will give you the line up for Thursday, stay tuned.
ReplyDeleteOne good thing about having the prison next to the courthouse.
ReplyDeleteThe arrested councilmen won't have to walk far to attend the council meeting.
Hi folks, well 2 days and a wake up. Do not forget Thursday 9:A.M.
ReplyDeleteGood Luck on the 18th. With all the lies O'Hare is telling on his hate blog it will be good to read the truth. It is time the O'Hare/Angle/Stoffa game is finally exposed. the taxpayers can see how their money was used by a private person to do the dirty work of this administration. keep digging.
ReplyDeleteCould someone tell me where I can sign the recall Stoffa petition? My neighbors and some of my co-workers are eager to sign it.
ReplyDeleteI would love to have you sign it Bernie/Brenda/Trish/Chris
ReplyDeleteMeet me at Nazareth Park Sunday afternoon for the "Thrill on The Hill" concert
weather permitting of course
Winston, who is Chris in this equation?
ReplyDeleteMiller
ReplyDeleteLocal TEA Party terrorist and
pro-sell Gracedale antagonist
He was at some of Angles misinformation meetings handing out propaganda
Oh...that guy.
ReplyDeleteChris Miller, public pension receiver who rallies against public pensions for other people. Yeah, he is a treabagger. Most of them get a public check of some sort.
ReplyDeleteWe are still waiting for C.Miller to yearly
ReplyDeletedonate his school district's portion of his rather large pension to charity,perhaps to the infirm at Gracedale or to some youth group.
C.Miller is now going to judge the teachers in Nazareth in a way in which he was probably never judged.
He once called Gracedale a rat hole.This is the kind of man who is now going to make decisions about our youth.What will he be calling the kids in Nazareth?
Great public servant!
While we are at it,perhaps he can return some of his benefits as well.
ATTENTION:
ReplyDeleteTHURSDAY AUGUST 18, 2011 AT 9 AM AT THE NORTHAMPTON COUNTY COURT HOUSE THE HONORABLE JUDGE BARATTA WILL HEAR A CASE INVOLVING THE POSSIBLE MIS-USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS TO ILLEGALLY TRY AND STOP THE THE SALE OF GRACEDALE.
Bernard O'Hare and Ron Angle will be represented by themselves.
John Conklin will be represented by Christopher Spadoni.
Election Board will be represented by Christopher Spadoni.
John Stoffa will be represented by criminal defense Attorney George A Heitzman.
Motion filed by Attorney Larry Otter.
Everyone who is interested can see first- hand how their tax dollars have been spent and what extreme efforts were taken to try to prevent the voters from weighing in on the future of Gracedale----BE THERE THURSDAY!
You just may find out some surprising facts about the character of our "leaders."
For a budinski, no-good-nik, Mr. know it all,with a mouth big enough that Condors build nests in it.
ReplyDeleteThe silence is deafening over on the hateblog, regarding tomorrows court date.
It is too laugh, truly.
The Angle stooge mouths off on EVERYTHING
on this, not so much.
The silence needs to be deafening, this is serious. Anything written by Bernie could be admitted as a part of the record. Expect an appeal if they lose and gloating if they don't.
ReplyDeleteTo Winston Smith some members of the COAF would like to meet you at some point in the future. We hope you can make it to the hearing. Hope to hear from you soon.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I have read, it is quite clear that our tax money was used to help give legal advice or otherwise to Bernard O'Hare and
ReplyDeleteRonald Angle.
The MCALL said that Stoffa "passed the ball to O'Hare." He cannot do this.Bernard cannot practice law in the State of PA. Stoffa knows this.
I cannot understand why every one who has read this stuff cannot see the truth?
But, after the end of this hearing,every taxpayer in NORCO will have that opportunity.
Those e-mails are public info.
My advice to all concerned. Be advocates for the people and do the right and truthful thing.
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Anyone wondering why Bernie is so quiet this evening?
ReplyDeleteGeorge Heitczman was a partner in Ohares fathers law firm.
ReplyDeleteHeitczman / Ohare Attorneys at Law
I wonder if it is the father or the son that continues the practice.
This is interesting. I guess there have been strategy sessions between odd couple O'Angle and this Heitczman fellow.
You know, to get their stories straight.
And I hear that O'Angle has hired Ronnys personnal lawyers to represent them tomorrow.
The Law Offices of Dewy, Cheatum and Howe will be speaking on behalf of the besmerched party.
I think O'Angle are running their lines tonight, under the blankies with a flashlight that would explain the silence.
Or maybe a Zepplin crashed into the O'Angle estate,
Oh, the humanity!!!!
Who knows what will happen tomorrow maybe a suprise guest appearance by W.S.?
The great thing is Bernie O'Hater did a post blasting Atty Otter and the COAF on his hate blog. He is pissed that you are sullying the good names of John Stoffa and Conklin as well as he and Angle. He already took down the ability to post on the entry. It was only up a few minutes and he was getting slammed with the truth. He did the usual O'Hare thing, he gave his propaganda speech and when people disagreed he stopped allowing posts.
ReplyDeleteYes these are the people the taxpayers must trust with our tax dollars and pour elderly relatives. They are a disgrace.
Thank God I spoke to a very honest man who I am pretty sure will be running for County Executive. Honest and competent, Amen!
Well today is the day for the truth to come out. BO are you ready for court I hope so. Truth will be told today. Not your version of the truth.
ReplyDeleteYou all got the facts out there and on the record. That is important. Mr. Otter getting paid is a separate matter. The important thing to remember is the people can now see the connection between taxpayer dollars and Angle/Stoffa/O'Hare.
ReplyDeleteThank YOU!
Ohare has posted quotes from in here.
ReplyDeleteHe used mine without paying the standard royalty. I should sue him. "But I know the courts have more important issues" .
Really? Coming from the "Queen" of appeals and his puppetmaster. What a hypocrite.
I'll be at Naz Park Sunday weather permitting
Why not not put your cleanest dirty shirt on and meet me there Columbo?
Angle and BO got out of the suite because they did not sign the checks, this puts Stoffa un der the buss he will have to explane why.
ReplyDeleteAngle and OHare have already been found guilty by the court of public opinion. Everyone who has seen the bills and read the e-mails know that they used the law firm hired to sell Gracedale for personal legal advise and Stoffa paid their bill with OUR TAX DOLLARS. When Otter returns to court and Im sure he will then those responsible will have to pay the price for their mis-deeds. Won't be soon enough for me!
ReplyDeleteJust wait until THE PEOPLE read the e-mails for themselves.
ReplyDeleteIf you think how well behaved ANGLE IS NOW, WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THE BEHAVIOR OF ALL OF THEM. The e-mails tell the TRUTH.
Good luck, guys.
You are going to need more than a disbarred attorney and a boozer helping to save you.
I'm guessing bernie will spin this into how ronnie-boy really preserved open space.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lehighvalleylive.com/slate-belt/index.ssf/2011/08/northampton_county_councilman.html
Northampton County Councilman Ron Angle ordered to pay $1.3 million in land development suit
Breaking News:
ReplyDeleteAngle and the settlement land case with the BANGOR RESIDENT:angle lost.
It certainly is NOT on Bernie's blog yet.
Angle's respose: APPEAL
He is also bragging about his 5 million dollars in cash.
What kind of person wants the whole county TO KNOW how much he is worth when they already know: zero
Judge: Ron Angle owes $1.27 million in land dispute
ReplyDeleteI hope that the good people of Angle's region realize that with all of his money,which he is now bragging about, he cannot buy good manners and decent character.
ReplyDeleteSCOTT PARSONS will be a representative for the people who will bring pride, honesty, and common courtesy back to their rep on the council.